Misconceptions between an OBE and a dream

Differences between an OBE and a dream, right? When I’m randomly reading posts on some of the main non-physical subjected sites from people who are still mixing up guesses with facts, it reminds me, how the hack can’t people accept that having an OBE’s, Phasing, Lucid Dreams, Dreams, Projections are all the same. What happens is that newbies – I was there too at the beginning of understanding the differences – having some improvements in their average awareness of peaks and highs over night, they will question the realness of the experience. We are humans right now, we tend to question anything which doesn’t fits in our brainwashment or preconceived categories, because we are highly misled according to that big bunch of false informations about non-physical traveling which is all over the web. The most won’t make deep investigations about how things work out, they call it this or that as objectifying what still they don’t know because of the box thinking. No problem, I will try to explain it an easy way, it IS easy to understand.

What is real and what is not? All ARE real, keep it in mind. People don’t feel some of them real because of the lack of experiences and development of understanding the multidimensional nature of them and of course elevating their average awareness. It takes practice and dedication. Once You wash off this objective thinking what is real and not, you will see that a whole new endless world is just beyond this realm.

Out of Body Experiences, Phasings, Astral Projections, Lucid Dreams, Dreams etc are all the same thing

I know on forums some people will argue with the other group that they are not the same. People try to cling on the OBE aspect because that is what the most learnt especially from following what Robert A. Monroe and the others were doing and teaching decades back and still teaching. It is cool to “leave” your body huh? Meanwhile you were never in it. It is a group construct, meaning that if more and more people will create this in their mind, it will happen with big effort. But the most don’t know what to do next, no real aims for developing further, just for fun.

OBE – you seemingly leave a body which is a holographic copy of your physical outer character… advanced people are already figured out that it is a copied representation of what people are expecting when they achieve this state after had a bunch of bodily sensations, rapid heartbeat, numbness, paralysis, anything and they float away or jump out, roll out. Perception, that is what is differentiate it from the others. It directly brings you to the RTZ and called etheric projection (a fancy word for a construct).

Astral Projection – all the same with other sensations and with another label as you are traveling to the “Astral Realm”, the most common label. You go to the NP as with any tools but to deeper levels. The control is as good as with OBE.

Phasing – a relatively recent label for the same phenomena, except that you won’t feel your body or having it’s presence, meanwhile you can feel it and have a partial mind trip to another dimension, experiencing both. I felt it many times while I was in the non-physical. Some may feel the body, some may not. Phasing means, you switch channels with your mind according to the Focus Model (read it if you need better insight on the site). You go anywhere with changing mind channels with practice. The whole aim in phasing is that it PROVES that you don’t have a body (while the firs two tries to show you a fake belief) and you don’t have frightening sensations or anything to stop exploring or practicing. It is harder of course and the reality frame changes are not so pretty dramatic. For me, it is like my visual field blurs out or grey and I’m at another place in the NP.

Lucid Dream – simply put, you become aware that you are elsewhere rather than your physical world, mostly you DO NOT know that you are not in your room or anything, it just don’t feel the real one. It is distorted still and if you gained better mind programming by yourself, it will be much much real with practive over time and you will see now maybe after dozens of this one that the non-physical is much real and free. I know it, I’m on this level mostly. LD’s are a little bit this and that to every people, in my opinion if you  are on maximum awareness, you will experience that the physical world (Focus 1) is just a pretty dumb illusion… yes it is. Controlled on both sides as you are the actor and helpers, bigger You is the coordinator unseen. Btw the main concern with this type is that many gains awareness in a “dream” and if you do it frequently, you will realize that the non-physical is much real than the physical waking life. The only issue here is as that you gain awareness to realize yourself.

Dream – a dumb label again according to that the most people on this planet from huge brainwash and keeping them in dumbness are don’t know what it is, shake it off, it was “just a dream” etc, the vast majority have it, because their awareness is pretty low. The most just lay down to sleep, diving in unconsciousness, maybe the most don’t even have any scenes. It is all about a bad civilizational habit, you are programmed yourself to stay blacked out for decades. I really hate this that the human society doesn’t even do anything good to people. The most are get there – it is called Sleep Class because people are unconscious – and just wander aimlessly, releasing all their emotions and encountering fears. The most will live up a “physical life” without realizing that their secondary life was there all the time to grab it and develop in it. It really counts, in my opinion more than the phyical one, but both are important!

Why people chase OBE all the time?

Wrong habits and misled infos all over the web, books, teachers etc. People are fashioned with this label “out” of “body” and it is cool, meanwhile they don’t know even a thing what are they doing if they are practicing it and stop the whole thing after they encountered their own fears in a thought responsive environment and stop doing it, calling it fake, a nightmare, anything. That is why people need to grow up. The sad thing is that the 99,999% (who knows) are living up a whole life without knowing who they are or what is that world we came from as spirits. The physical world sucking everybody in with objectivity, materialism (chasing materialistic life after money) and egoism. Of course I don’t say that everybody needs to “awaken” to their true self. No, we are coming here to experience and play the game. It is like this self-aware group does this for more experience and development, everybody else are on the other hand are just living unconsciously. It is not for everybody! Developing the inner self takes dedication. Whoever finds non-physical infos and tries to understand them and search for more on forums for example, will be the one who IS interested in personal development and gaining knowledge about everything else from experienced people. You won’t develop in any way from those self-help craps which are spreading like wildfire everywhere, You will stagnate in your life thinking you need to chant in your seat all day long and deny anything.

So the main issue is, they want OBE because other wants to. People are copying each other all the time in every aspects of this civilization, like sheep. Not because they want to realize their multidimensional nature and that they are much more and there is much more than this world, no, they chase a fashion or addiction in every aspects of life. It is fun huh? Well it can be, but the most just don’t have intention with achieving anything with it other than seeing the outer planets in the Real Time Zone or seeing other ET races, maybe pinch people, flying etc. That is not development, it is like being a child playing nonsense things. It is cool indeed but the most are not going further than their room! It won’t be fun if your fears will appear as a dragon or a monster with big mouth and relatively but funnily your own fears are eating you up.

So why do people differentiate these states?

Because these labels are made up and they have a feel and taste like separate things, also big cool names indeed. But they are only tools to explore their own consciousness. I should tell you something here, just a joke. Many chase this road for a while, unsuccessfully or successfully and realize later that they had OBE/phasing/LDs etc in their whole life! How? They elevated their average awareness and wow, now they realized it. “Dreams” are on the lowest awareness levels, connections to the non-physical and to our higher dimensional self. We are developing in all dimensions at the same time. Dreams are our connections to the Wider Reality, which tries to teach us to grow up and experience our true nature, not some hocuspocus thingy. And be careful because if you understood this and want this, other people will find you strange and alien, this is NOT for everybody! It would be too much for billions in my opinion and according to what I learnt from humanity. People are deeply in their butt in this world. Keep it to yourself! Many people, who are now in their 40-50-60’s had a hard time, not even talking to anybody in their own family, that they could NP travel from early childhood and I know a few too.

Those labels are all the same with various degrees of self-awareness and perception.

One more thing comes into my mind here. Many people – even me too at the beginning – tried to achieve a phasing, projection IN a “dream” or LD, while they are ALREADY in a projection as they are in “dreamland” or in another dimension, ok let’s call it the non-physical. They become highly aware and try to induce something which they still didn’t realize they are doing. Doubt, yeah… What happens, a useful experience is over and they are trying to induce something which was already happening. I admit I try to reach a conscious exit from my physical world too since a while but it is very hard to achieve for my type with rushing logical thinking and for some it is like for the first time. For me, it was much easier to achieve it over my sleeps. The main issue is understood even by myself, it is a big dedication to find out what works, without useless technics. Believe in yourself and should know that you were in the NP in your life the whole time, no matter how cool adventures did you have! Enjoy it!

Better understanding of the simplified Focus Model of Consciousness

I was thinking about what if what I wrote down about the Focus model was a little bit confusing for some groups of people so I will try to make it even simpler with an easier representation, how our local system works from Focus 4 towards the Focus 1 physical Universe where we live right now.

I didn’t invent this model, there was an experienced man, who just disappeared and what he explored over his NP years was amazing. This alone is not my idea but I think it is for all, who want to understand life and beyond. This is for share. I only experienced and investigated a portion of it but time will tell. Nothing is set in stone and it may vary in mechanics but seems very accurate in subjective terms without any beliefs and distortions. I only would like to share as usual, what I feel is accurate and useful.

Those who understand the model without knowing it but building their knowledge from non-physical exploring are already knowing that physical Universes are seemingly endless and maybe they are. It is a consciousness game on a vast scale. But we needed a certain structure to make it possible to explore this state.

I hope understanding this model also will eliminate fear from people as a bonus. Don’t fear life and death. We are here only as a character and we are much more than this. Don’t listen to others and their fear machine what is what.

Focuses of Attention

The Focus model is not representing places. Afterlife or Belief System Territories, 3D Void etc… are NOT places, they are parts of your mind non-physically, furthermore they ARE your mind in a bigger picture, which is individual construct. The Focus levels are focuses of attention. We only experience Focus 3 places because we objectify everything as physical of post-physical lifed humans so thus these are working like supply and demand. They exists for the purpose of the game.

Where we focus our thoughts, we will be there partly or fully.

OBE, Astral Projection, Phasing, Lucid Dreams or Dreams are all the same, no matter some defensive people are telling you they are not. What separates them is only your level of awareness how you are conscious in them. It can achieved by training your mind. If the Wider Reality can teach you to grow non-physically, your NP experiences will improve and experience the true nature of Us. It takes time, effort, dedication and certain development. Most of people are unable to do this and don’t want to, keep it in mind and keep it to yourself. They fear just anything and that is why human life is like that.

The Focus Levels in nutshell

Focus 4: purely subjective mind level, where we are fully exist in essence and everything stems from there. Entities are pure energies (some people may experience reality overlays as seeing glowing energy spheres as those F4 entities), their primary focus is here. There are no objective forms (for example a human appearance) and no structures which are physical. Communication is purely telepathic but it is the same in F3.
Life energy and every downloadable probable constructs are coming from Focus 4 as an umbrella focus for the whole system. Life energy goes to F1 while the physical body construct is functioning, manifested and/or probable future goes into F2 to further personal use. Focus 2 is very interesting because that is the way we create our life here and now. I guess it is slapping some people in the face how uneducated the vast majority are and how wrong just everybody in their little theories of life from a limited physical perspective. Most are just guessing without having any personal investigations.

Focus 3: group construct place for the vast many, this mind level is enables us to exist as group construct, this way you have many many different parallel selves, aspects, who are YOU in Focus 4 sense. If you can communicate with some versions of yourself, you are talking with a representation of your wider Focus 4 self, just it is like they did the same with you and you are your F4 smaller self, ok? Some people call them interfaces like Tom Campbell but I think this man is too scientific in his thinking and calls people there programs.

Focus 2: contains the 3D blackness and Void, these “regions” are for various use, mostly for using for our minds while we live physical life, so you have a restricted vast personal toolbox, which you use in Focus 1 on Earth. Meaning everything you feel, memorize, believe, experienced, all are stored here and using it. The Void leads us to Focus 3, this is constructed on higherlevel by US in Focus 4 perspective to make the transition back to F3 make easier after the illusion of physical death.

Focus 1: primary focus, here on Earth plane, we are using a portion of self to live a life from initial circumstances and see how it works out.

The structure of the Focus states

These Focus mind structures are created by all of us in a vastly bigger scale as I mentioned above on a higher level, for the function of making structures and construct to build out a vastly if not endlessly big simulation world like physical Universes on an endless scale to experience what we could NOT in non-physical existence. The non-physical world is truly seems endless and there are no limits to experience anything – I guess that is why we constructed restricted systems like physical Universes to experience what we can’t there. Endless subjective vs limited objective – perception…

So:
F4: pure subjective, no form only energy, concepts, blueprint for anything stored and downloaded to F2.
F3: partly objective, partly subjective life for easier return from F1 and going into another F1 all over again for the game of life and also ALL belief systems you can imagine for the purpose to shake them all off to move on.
THERE IS NO TIME, to make it clear. Just an illusion in F1 = parallel lives are happening, not sequential life.
F2: funtcional toolbox to function properly in physical life which is mostly misunderstood as the brain is doing these… (the physical brain is a translating and filtering mechanism).
F1: physical life with added difficulties to experience which we can’t in the NP.

And to make it clear: we ALREADY occupy these states of consciousness! We never left them, we only using a portion of our selves here and now. Imagine it this way: we are switching mind channel with altered states, sleep, dreams, anything. “Before birth” memories in my better understanding is suppressed for the sake of not messing up a normal physical life, it would cause huge problems for many. People (the most) could soon be mentally ill if they knew more than one lifetime instead of their current one as developing.

I guess this summary will help many to understand this. I admit this model is the latest most interesting one and every individuals experiences could vary from it but this may be the hard subjective truth. Forget nonsense God constructs, they are made by humans. Understanding this, just anything which people told, teach, learnt in physical life, what mystics are spreading, what brainwashing people receive is pure BS, even according to this model too. Experience it by yourself, learn to meditate, clear your mind, experience your inner self. Start with dreams!

Here is the list of the Focus Model links:

The Focus Model from F1 to F4 – part 1 (FOCUS 1)

The Focus Model from F1 to F4 – part 2 (“Real Time Zone”)

The Focus Model from F1 to F4 – part 3 (FOCUS 2, the VOID, 3D Blackness)

The Focus Model from F1 to F4 – part 4 (FOCUS 3 – The Afterlife, Belief System Territories)

The Focus Model from F1 to F4 – part 5 (FOCUS 4, the Higher Focus)

Blurring realities while traveling

A quick post, but I guess many are interested in it.

People who are able to travel between different NP realities with practice may experienced an actual travel speed. When we tend to travel, our conscious awareness or concepts in our minds are using up an actual effect of speed sense from the physical life. Now actually we are changing places or realities maybe but what is experienced for especially me (and afterwards for many people) is an actual blurring effect, which is like you don’t feel movement, it is silence, you feel like you are breathing inside and eventually the effect in itself is a greyish screen in front of you, what your consciousness sees according to your interpretation. It may vary according to personal beliefs and prelearnt concepts in your mind.

I noticed this phenomenon when I changed realities on my own or with NP help, that it is like you are speeding like hell with a tremendous speed and you may feel movement too, but for me it is only visual many times. I guess because I’m rarely thinking about that I’m pyhsically moving with a “body”, understanding the basic non-physical principles already since a while. In the non-physical mostly we are for only just a certain amount of time may think we are using a body but it is still our projection from what we believe. No suprise why so many billions there are suffering from thinking they are that character or that body, that gender etc…

Of course we CAN fly and feel speed, acceleration in non-physical realities but when we encounter this phenomenon, it is interpreted by our minds that we are “moving” towards another “place” with a huge rush. It is still possible to see what is happening around us but when we tend to reach a certain understanding and development over the years, I guess it is melting down to this simple occurance too. But it doesn’t mean that this is the only phenomenon alone.

Phasing as a practice to travel to the NP is mostly about this phenomenon too. You are realising you are not traveling anywhere because there is no space and time “there”. The non-physical is truly endless and you can travel anywhere according to your desires.

The Focus Model from F1 to F4 – part 2 (“Real Time Zone”)

Going further in the Focus model, I need to discuss a very interesting aspect of our Wider Reality. Here comes in the “Real Time Zone”, aka. RTZ which is only a label and had a wide variety of explanations about what it is. Here is my take on from various reliable sources, people and my own experiences observing what it is. No matter what you believe about it if you have no observation data about the whole phenomenon.

The Real Time Zone or RTZ is widely discussed in various spiritual forums and those what are about non-physical experiences. Many people had experiences which they labeled as RTZ projection or just gaining enough awareness that they seemingly woke up physically and really not – they found themselves in the RTZ in their room or house mostly – which seems so real (well it is!).

What is the Real Time Zone?

It is a little bit complex to understand and at the same time easy thing.

RTZ is the buffer zone closest to the physical, Focus 1.  If I take it one step closer, it is Focus 2’s part! When you are successful achieving an OBE or a RTZ projection with your mind, you may see your body which is not really there, you may experience your room but many stuffs are different – door is on the wrong side or some objects are just at the wrong place where it supposed to be in F1. And it is brighter, maybe the sun is shining outside while there was night.

So basically RTZ is just the closest layer, in this meaning we can call the RTZ as the phyical world’s NP extension. It is nothing more, just your mind’s interpretation in a certain way, how your surroundings are what they used to in your primary focus. I need to repeat here, in my opinion and observations, this “zone” thing is an overlay surely with Focus 2 state which is your mind’s playground.

How it works in mechanics?

Let’s say you are in your room, which feels real, some objects are not at the place where “they supposed to be”. Now forget that BS load that you are observing your actual physical surroundings, because what happens is your mind has this very huge power to simulate your room even until the smallest details like your phone’s screen too, and what you experience is a simulation according to your expectations. Some people see their body, but because they expect to see it (fear to die or what has happened). Other religious and fear based conceptions are to see the famous “silver cord”, which is like mystics didn’t have fantasy (why silver lol, thanks the joke F.K.). These are there because you expect to see them like negative entities, which are from your own fear mostly.
When you see objects at the wrong place or the wall is on another color, or the door is at the “wrong” place, don’t forget, you are not in your physical reality! But surely you just don’t realise it even in half an hour.

Your own thoughts in your non-physical mind causing all kinds of so called “reality fluctuations” which are experienced by a seeminly wrongly placed element or maybe something or many many things are just not felt right whereever they are or they behave Not just in your room, you could walk on your neighbor street and it could be 100% accurate according to your Focus 1 street in your physical life. Fluctuations in all Focus States coming from your mind’s work behind the scenes and changing the surroundings.

So what happens when you see fluctuations is, that you experience Focus overlays. Which means you may open your door and you just step into your Focus 2 mind, where all kinds of emotional releases and feelings, uncontrolled thoughts are causing you trouble. You may have suddenly a friend entering from Focus 3 through a certain door which is a symbol for “door” to other worlds. You may experience overlay from Focus 4, where pure energy beings or light spheres are residing and our main focus could be also there if we are not experiencing  right now in Focus 1, the physical.

In my opinion, and after my experiences, our minds are causing fluctuations and overlays, when we tend to think or release emotions in every way. We can just step on our entrance door and when it opens up, we are in Focus 3 already. That is why entering to other Focus levels are not like a big magic or effect like in movies. I had many experiences like this and was amazed about the mechanics. That’s why when people normally dream, just don’t realise that they are constantly jumping in and out of NP scenes according to their expectations.

But don’t forget, you could experience celestial bodies in space too, but navigating is very difficult there, according to the accelerated speed from thoughts. After a while it start to wear off, it is boring and you just can’t gain any knowledge by flying and similars.

OBE’s and the RTZ experience

When people originally start to learn about projection and learn about all the BS which are around the web, just every belief systems which people are sharing, they try to force a so called “out of body” projection, meaning they think they should leave their physical body to achieve it, forcing every technic which they learnt, trying to “jump” or “push” themselves “out”.
When they are successful after maybe days, but mostly weeks, months, even years – they are successful sometimes. Why?
I tried to understand this for almost 2 years, because I couldn’t achieve it, but could travel to the NP on other ways. So what’s happening with people who are learning it the first time is, they successfully implement beliefs about this whole act and they are (some of them) achieving it by combining imagination, feelings, thoughts and affirmations which way they are programming their Focus 2 mind space where all the belief systems, thoughts, emotions, memories are stored and they are successful because they made themselves think they are doing it, being successful. They just don’t realise it. Even the biggest authors from the past and today both think, they are leaving their bodies and sharing these “facts”. They know how the wider reality works, but they fail to realise that they have another belief about their own experiences.

We are achieving anything by Focus 2 mind programming – which mainstream called the “subconscious” – so this way you could experience your own belief constructs and OBE are the same in mechanics.

You are never out of body. You’ve never been inside a body! Your focus of your consciousness is using a primary focus which is Focus 1, your pyhsical world, through a physical body, not inside it. If you don’t understand the difference, try to watch closely when you are “dreaming”. You are in a different environment, other than your physical body – this is called Lucid Dreaming but the label is false again. How could it be if you are “IN” your physical body, huh? You see. Of course after you wake up without previous trained awareness, you just wash off your dreams and don’t pay attention how real are they when you are actually “there”. This is just a bad habit thinking after waking up that it was not real, but while your were there previously IT WAS!

OBE and RTZ is a belief construct and a label at the same time which various authors labeled as they tried to understand this phenomenon through the centuries and lastly R.M. from TMI was one of the biggest pioneers but later turned out his work was very self-fooling in some aspects and he was just hanging up on his personal beliefs. But people are just trying to copy his experiences the same way. What happens is, you seemingly leaving the physical body, because that is what you believe and feel and see. Your whole perspective reinforces you that your belief is true and you just float above, leave through the head, maybe through the third eye’s place, maybe you stand next to your body, but you are now in a different “dimension” already. Surprise how religions are formed.

So the Real Time Zone is the closest buffer NP focus world, which is really mixed with partly the physical world’s elements and with various Focus states. You can achieve OBE’s but don’t forget that it is a belief construct again, and very real from your thoughts.
There is another concept – phasing – which proves finally that you are never leaving anything, there is rarely any movement and it just causes your mind to detach from the physical focus and switch on to other “channels”. You don’t have the fear that your body could be harmed lol.