Why you should never ever argue with religious people

My pure intention about religious people only here is to make people realize that they are stuck in their own beliefs. No arguements here.

People are afraid. Afraid of do not knowing from where they are came from, listening to lies of the society and bigger forces, don’t UNDERSTANDING what or who is this “God” concept, they are really afraid about not knowing what is not objective outside of this world. But mainly, they are so weak and simple, that they need to follow groups = religions. Where does this God thing comes? From what people told as stories through the ages… do you believe that what somebody thinked out after his/her own highly limited understanding is a FACT? These days the society is full of lies, according to monetary gain aims – do you believe any of them? Be sceptical!

NO! Not DENY EVERYTHING! Question them with common sense. Don’t be mad. Be smart, not overly questioner.

Let’s make this clear, the most are thinking in box world and can’t crush out ever. Billions on this planet as I observed so far from my own childhood, they grew up in dumbism, accepting anything which are fitting in their limited thinking – they had no chance to deny. Everybody does this, but intelligent people are the worst if they are that “bad” type. They literally overdo it. They will explain just anything and if they fail, than you are wrong of course.

A religious follower will defend the non-sense view at all cost – most of

I feel myself a little bit confused writing about this, but from pure help. I’m on the side that people, believing in all these non-sense man-made stuffs will eventually in their non-physical life (we are all coming from and returning there) will shake off their beliefs and move on to evolve in multidimensional understanding and that they are existing in all level, even on that so called “higher self” (notice with small capitals, because we are that already) existence. People need to realize that they are fooling themselves but nobody will force them, only themselves – if they are really BORED believing in something which is only a made-up construct. You will be highly bored after run through various heavens and hells and nice places…

If somebody is religious, they will at any cost defend their viewpoint and “rightness” and plus added, they will argue with you that you are not believing in what they are. They will blame you, you are stupid, their belief will be forced on you. This defensive behavour for simple people, to avoid on their side to damage their ego, a childish one. The physical life “ego” is made for the job to keep you safe and alive in this physical system and stay stable in your thinking. But most of can’t get out. And don’t misunderstand me – and if somebody missed some words above – I won’t force anybody to believe me. I agree that a good teacher won’t force you to believe him/her, he will show hints and insights about where you are wrong – non-physical helpers are doing this, that is why their name originally is “guides”. If a teacher forces you to learn, he/she can’t do a good job instead of letting you figure out your own truth.

I was observing religious people’s behavour in my entire life (starting from family) and I can say that they are not so complicated. The foundation is a the same for all with various tools.

Here is the process of someone jumping in a religion and following it

You have certain belief systems and view of the world. Some of them are coming from false teaching, or maybe from childhood box thinking from dumb parents, maybe from school, where in my opinion we don’t learn even a useful thing after learning to count, write and speak (sort of lol). I won’t call these people “dumb”. I used to but I understand them really. I will mention later the Flatlanders.
But don’t make suddenly the false assumption that school is meaningless, without we can’t function in this world from childhood and start the real deal here, it is a necessary bad thing so to speak.

Almost everybody follows something, somebody. Even the big gurus and speaking somebodies who are writing useless books are following their OWN religion, beliefs – I’m just amazed after investigating these people deeply how will they just literally fuck themselves over after they finished this life. And because our Multiverse is working on our thoughts, beliefs and emotions, you will experience mostly the exact world which is deep inside you. Not in a 100% manner because here in this group reality, the rulesets just can’t deny the whole construct if somebody starts to think that elephants are flying and the Earth is banana shaped (lol). But most of your inner world do project itself out with added time delay and mixed variables.

So back to the subject. You are finding a group and teachings which makes perfect sense to you – why not? IT was “proven” to be that way. The most intelligent types (this is ridiculous because people misuse intelligence, avoiding common sense) are no matter what, will defend their own viewpoint, the group construct, which is now their own reality. You just don’t recognize how solid is your world after a well accepted belief, you are guarding a growing concept. Nobody will shake you, instead you start to argue with everybody to accept your non-sense. Meanwhile the outside observer without this viewpoint could swear that you are wrong and that is not existing what you believe.

BOTH viewpoint are existing in a deeper reality! Don’t you see? Why is that in car accidents, victims are seeing different scenarios, even when they were next to each other? This is all about your own inner Universe and what you consciously sensing from your perspective and interpretation of reality.

By accepting a viewpoint, you will build up a whole personal barrier and world, thinking what others are saying is the well explained subject and “TRUTH” and because people are showing evidences like being scientific with degrees (people could be still dumb as hell with it, because they actually accepted what they learnt from others) or speaking through channeling entities, the followers are spreading that it is more and more evident. Until one day a few lucky intelligent/hopeful people will stop believing in the fake crap, in which still a big mass does. The ratio is always there, a very few on this planet are actually intelligent in a sense to have the inner knowledge from their essence that what is what.

Truth is personal, always! It is relative…

Everybody has their own truth and that is how here in this perspective, we are functioning. Truth is personal and dualistic in the sense that it is objective and subjective at the same time (particles and waves riiight?). If you see an UFO on the sky, maybe your neighbor won’t see it. Interpretation plays a big role in this with personal beliefs. But both sides can kill each other for make each other understand that both are right or wrong.

So if you THINK that God is real and somebody is created Earth and everything, it is real as there are angels and any kinds of things. And indeed they are, only in your subjective Multiversal perspective! Person “A” will encounter with angels in the non-physical, while person “B” will meet strange aliens with big heart. You are fooling yourself! That is the illusion, not that NASA “maybe” lies. The whole illusion is right in front of everybody and people just don’t see it because of deep physical focus and indoctrinations about what is real and possible.
Same for God. If you can imagine a God figure, it is now existing in your subjective mind and it will no matter what act like a God figure and scare you or offer huge “love”. Everybody tries to grasp that God is real, with a starting point from books and stories which HUMANS were telling all along the thousands and 10.000-100.000 years through (yes, the human history is much longer, but we don’t know from those distorted sources surely) and these stories are like human nature. Our main nature in this is that we distort stories. The other one is that we invent Gods (endless ones) to try to understand our origins and nature. The whole thing went wrong from the beginning. I know surely this thinking but let’s fuel it further and these people will actually for the sake of their own ego and defend their accepted lies will find phrases from these books and sources and tell you the exact meaningless words which others are already written down and distorted. We know the human nature, if you can imagine something in the meaning of a completely different thing, it will be now that actuality.

Today we have – since decades, centuries also – the tools to use meditation or realizing while we are asleep that we are not anymore in the physical Universe. We think we are in a non-sense world, or “it was just a dream”. We experience physical worlds because we THINK everything is physical! The most will always deny the multiversal existance because they FAIL to realize, that these perspective (1D, 2D, 3D, whatever) are only in their toolbox. That’s where Flatlanders come in. And as I try to explain that world, you will see how the God notion fits in well but on a very different way, which the Focus model explains well.

There is a movie on Youtube: Flatland – the movie (2007) – watch it till the end.

So Flatlanders (don’t mix it with those Flat Earthers, that is very headache thing, same type of people as religions as it is a followed non-sense again, but they are very similar to Flatlanders! It is ridiculous how people think they are knowing something which is idiotism) are those in the non-physical (ok call it 4D) who fail to realize that there is much more than their limited viewpoint. They think it is God whoever tries to communicate (or not) with them from a different reality frame, which is unreal for them.  And if something is unreal or outside of your beliefs, you deny it instantly like an immature child. They are in my knowledge on the lower regions in the BST (if there is such a thing as “low”) in NP Focus 3 and they are doing what people are doing here. For example I many times failed to make understand those NP people about linear time. They didn’t get the idea to understand what is that, because TIME is meaningless in the NP. And many of them never ever lived human life, meanwhile they look absolutely human like to you. I met many, it is a hard thing. Not because they are dumb, they simply missing the whole concept of physical life. Maybe that is just one reason why some of us coming here to experience physical life (as now humans) and many people are struggling.

The other problem is again – religion!
You are speaking about it, teaching them to open up their mind, that the Multiverse is not as limited and also their inner being determines what reality will they experience. They are fooling themselves. And you know what? The same scenario, they will defend, argue with you and you are failed eventually. The best option is if maybe a few out of the hundreds or thousands (or more) starts to DOUBT in a surface level, that they may be wrong about what they know. Nonono, not the unintelligent way as everybody is lieing. Just a few… and in my guess they will start to jump into physical life to experience the illusion of time, separation, dualism, being trapped in social crap etc… In order in my opinion and after I learnt about the Wider Reality, if you want to understand a certain world, you need more viewpoints in your pocket.
As long as I know the physical life is necessary to have the needed perception to evolve into higher understanding of how the WHOLE system works, which we all created on a higher level, which contains every Universe and dimension. It is a huge game being a huge illusion.

Non-physical beings don’t care about religion, there is enough there. Negative enities mostly from your own fears are not caring about your prays, they will laugh at you. You are only saving yourself on your own, maybe from a higher perspective (guides). People are continuing existing as they were like here, because they don’t want to change. Relatively that is the case but in my opinion after a while everybody shakes off the previous “trauma”.

Who or where is God? You know now… you don’t need to believe me, I don’t need it. But take into consideration, that if we are existing in all level already, meaning the famous and misused “higher self” perspective – if you can talk with it, you are it, then isn’t it clear that you are yourself as “god”? I know this sounds funny but true. The false logic in religious people is that they can’t even accept this idea… they deny themselves deeply. I don’t know why is it so necessary to rely on a concept which is not even real outside of the human system.

From personal example, my “higher self” or Essence from the higher perspective leads me with subjective tools and it is still a complete headache to understand him/her/it. I never ever could fall into mainstream religions fully, because I have a carried knowledge from the NP (from feeling I have and knowing too), but still I can fall into theories. How I work myself out from crap is that I first fall in, which is absolutely normal for everybody and still try to prove that the whole idea is actually wrong or leaking in serious wholes in theory. Try to do the same instead believing anything. But for this I guess there is a needed balanced minded spirit and I didn’t experience this issue as a common thing in this world. People do look and act like intelligent, but the worst way. And still… they know surely they are right because that is how everybody’s universe is building up. This alone is one of the most valueable experiences in physical life because you will build your wider reality thinking up from it. I guess not so much post-human entities get back to the source so “soon” which is still them.

If Flatlanders as behavour and type is projected on to religious people, it seems clear that every world is working like that. A few are this and that (the ones who fail to fit in main categories), and the masses are keeping the actual reality stable to keep it existing for continue playing the game. There is always a ratio in the big masses versus the few (no, not the rich people, not even a subject here). If this whole population stops playing this whole game and “enlightened” at the same time which is almost impossible, planet Earth would be meaningless.

In the sense that religion is bad and good, I could say, it is needed and it is our nature, BUT it is dangerous really. Arguing about each other’s beliefs are not just childish and meaningless but causing wars physically and mentally too. Look back on human history: greed, money, fear, wars. Does it worth it? Leave them alone and they will learn on their own speed and level. Eventually everybody needs to start somewhere and some people needs to be some kind of aid to open up their boxmind. The Wider Reality is hierarchic really. Guides are helping us evolve non-physically, we can be guides here and in the NP help out billions (to few helper for the rest) from their self-made hell. People are blocking themselves from inner grow and realizing their own creativeness.

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